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Re: Powder coating -- WAS RE: [gti-vr6] One for Wally and the other lawyers VWGTi@aol Mon, 25 Jan 1999 15:03:14 EST
Powder coating -- WAS RE: [gti-vr6] One for Wally and the other l peter.jolles@ps.ge Mon, 25 Jan 1999 13:54:52 -0500
RE: Powder coating -- WAS RE: [gti-vr6] One for Wally and the other lawyers "Michael Sumerano" <Michael.Sumerano@laminations> Mon, 25 Jan 1999 14:07:37 -0500
Re: [gtivr6list] Powder coating (from a powdercoater) Marker510@aol Thu, 3 Feb 2000 09:06:25 EST
Re: [gtivr6list] Powder coating wheels ? Marker510@aol Thu, 3 Feb 2000 09:08:46 EST



From gti-vr6-owner@cobra.ccsi Mon Jan 25 14:15 CST 1999
From: VWGTi@aol
To: peter.jolles@ps.ge, gti-vr6@cobra.ccsi,
Subject: Re: Powder coating -- WAS RE: [gti-vr6] One for Wally and the other lawyers
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 15:03:14 EST
 
In a message dated 1/25/99 2:02:32 PM Eastern Standard Time,
&#112;eter.jolles&#64;ps.ge<img src=/i/dc.gif border=0 width=35 height=15> writes:

&gt; &gt; From: 	Michael Sumerano[SMTP:&#77;ichael.Sumerano&#64;laminations<img src=/i/dc.gif border=0 width=35 height=15>]
>  > Sent: 	Monday, January 25, 1999 1:27 PM
>  <snip>
>  > BTW, I checked some prices at a local powder coater.  He quoted me $100 to
>  > coat all 4 wheels.  Is this good?
>  <snip>
>
>  Damn, that is good pricing. I have a price sheet in front of me which lists
>  it as $65 a wheel (includes stripping, cleaning, powder coat, clear coat?
>  and baking). Multiple colors were additional charges. I would probably want
>  to see some of the work he has done and see how well it holds up.
>
>  Peter J.
>  --

I was going to say...when i got my OZ Montes done in black a few years ago it
cost me $300 for the set.  So that price is good as long as it includes
cleaning and removing clearcoat and all prep and finishing work.

Jeff
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From gti-vr6-owner@cobra.ccsi Mon Jan 25 13:03 CST 1999
From: peter.jolles@ps.ge
To: gti-vr6@cobra.ccsi, michael.sumerano@laminations
Subject: Powder coating -- WAS RE: [gti-vr6] One for Wally and the other l
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 13:54:52 -0500
 
&gt; From: 	Michael Sumerano[SMTP:&#77;ichael.Sumerano&#64;laminations<img src=/i/dc.gif border=0 width=35 height=15>]
> Sent: 	Monday, January 25, 1999 1:27 PM
<snip>
> BTW, I checked some prices at a local powder coater.  He quoted me $100 to
> coat all 4 wheels.  Is this good?
<snip>

Damn, that is good pricing. I have a price sheet in front of me which lists
it as $65 a wheel (includes stripping, cleaning, powder coat, clear coat?
and baking). Multiple colors were additional charges. I would probably want
to see some of the work he has done and see how well it holds up.

Peter J.
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From gti-vr6-owner@cobra.ccsi Mon Jan 25 13:09 CST 1999
From: "Michael Sumerano" <Michael.Sumerano@laminations>
To: <peter.jolles@ps.ge>, <gti-vr6-digest@cobra.ccsi>
Subject: RE: Powder coating -- WAS RE: [gti-vr6] One for Wally and the other lawyers
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 14:07:37 -0500
 
> Damn, that is good pricing. I have a price sheet in front of me
> which lists
> it as $65 a wheel (includes stripping, cleaning, powder coat, clear coat?
> and baking). Multiple colors were additional charges. I would
> probably want
> to see some of the work he has done and see how well it holds up.

The place that does it *IS* the place to go in my area.  I've seen their
work, REAL NICE.  :)  They race a lot and do a TON of powder coating.  When
I went into the place, they had a large frame of some type of racing
machine, powder coated a gloss blue.  It was SHARP!

Now, these prices are for them to just powder coat the stuff.  We take care
of all the sandblasting, since I know someone who will do it for nothing.

The one question I have is how do they do multiple colors?  You can't
re-cook something that was already coated, so how do they get that messy
stuff on there in multiple colors?

Mike
'98 Ginster GTI VR6
http://come.to/gti-vr6/

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From Marker510@aol Thu, 3 Feb 2000 09:06:25 EST
From: Marker510@aol
Subject: Re: [gtivr6list] Powder coating (from a powdercoater)
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 09:06:25 EST
 
As many of you know, my "real" job is metal fabrication (sheet metal, wire
forming, tubing, welding, assembly, etc.), and we have our own plating and
powdercoating lines (fluidized bed, and electrostatic spray) in-house.
Powdercoating of wheels would be electrostatic spray, and oven temps are 350
degrees F to 500 degrees F (usually 400-450).  The oven temps depend on
powder type.   Anyhow, these are hardly temperatures that'll heat treat the
alloys and change thier molecular structure.  However, those temps will
damage wet paint.  Anyhow, long story short, to properly powder coat a rim,
they have to be bare metal (either have them bead blasted, hand sanded,
whatever).  It's also worth noting that powder coating is a durable surface,
but is subject to getting cut.  Anyone having tires mounted must make sure
they have newer "low contact" mounting machines, as the edge would be subject
to wear on an older tire mounting machine.
Usual power coating color for rims is flat black.  Anyhow, if there's
interest, I could have my estimating staff figure out some pricing to do a
group of rims, especially if it's a standard color.

Mark Rosenrkantz
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From Marker510@aol Thu, 3 Feb 2000 09:08:46 EST
From: Marker510@aol
Subject: Re: [gtivr6list] Powder coating wheels ?
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 09:08:46 EST
 

In a message dated 2/3/00 6:17:14 AM Eastern Standard Time,
&#103;tivr6&#64;uswestmail<img src=/i/dn.gif border=0 width=35 height=15> writes:

> I'm almost sure they DO add weight but I couldn't tell you how much.

Of course it depends on the surface area of the rim.  My guess is that it
would add 1-2 lbs.  I anyone is really curious, I could get a better guess,
rather than "off the cuff."

Mark Rosenkrantz
&#77;arker510&#64;aol<img src=/i/dc.gif border=0 width=35 height=15>








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