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plugs motorsport1 <mtrsprt1@warwick> Mon, 10 Nov 1997 19:28:08 -0500
Plug Info Wally Green <wally@li> Tue, 25 Nov 1997 08:16:58 -0500
Fwd: Re: Volkswagen Part Number - spark plugs Scott Catlin <scott.catlin@sierra> Wed, 26 Nov 97 12:14:20 -0800
Re: Plug Change "Larry Phelps" <gtivr6_dallas@hotmail> Wed, 17 Dec 1997 04:11:12 PST
Re: Whoops! "Myron Ybarra" <YbarraRonTracey@worldnet.att> Wed, 17 Dec 1997 14:11:22 -0800
Re: which spark plugs??? Wally Green <wally@li> Sat, 03 Jan 1998 14:22:31 -0500
Skinny on Plugs (was Brakes/plug wires) Wally Green <wally@li> Tue, 27 Jan 1998 11:44:54 -0500
Re: Skinny on Plugs (was Brakes/plug wires) ANDREW_ATWELL@HP-PaloAlto-om20.om.hp Tue, 27 Jan 1998 09:51:10 -0800
Re: Skinny on Plugs (was Brakes/plug wires) collinsk@pacbell (Kevin Collins) Wed, 28 Jan 98 06:31:57 GMT
Re: [gti-vr6] VR6 Spark Plugs Scott Catlin <scott.catlin@sierra> Thu, 5 Mar 98 11:22:19 -0800
Re: [gti-vr6] Autolite Platinum plugs: seem ok! "Brian and Mea Jowett" <syncroboy@hotmail> Sun, 20 Sep 1998 07:00:40 PDT
gti-vr6 library "Cliff Aylmer" <cliff.aylmer@bcbsga> Mon, 04 Mar 2002 11:59:38 -0500



From gti-vr6-owner@dev.tivoli Mon Nov 10 18:31 CST 1997
From: motorsport1 <mtrsprt1@warwick>
To: gti-vr6@dev.tivoli
Subject: plugs
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 19:28:08 -0500
 
Again heres my opinion on 3 plugs that i have used on my car:
NGK "r"...never a problem and easily goes 10k to 15k..costs $2.25 each
at local napa dealer or $6.95 at Rapid Parts(no joke)
BERU Silverstone...paid $7.95 a plug and one of the electrodes almost
broke off while in the cylinder...will never use again...will never
recommend
BOSCH...what can i say...never a problem




From gti-vr6-owner@dev.tivoli Tue Nov 25 07:23 CST 1997
From: Wally Green <wally@li>
To: The List <gti-vr6@dev.tivoli>
Subject: Plug Info
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 08:16:58 -0500
Cc: fullthrottle27@msn
 
Dudes,

Consulted the Bentlyey for Spark Plug data. I have a 96. The Bentley stated
that the proper NGK part no. was BKR-5-EKU.

However, I think that is/was the plug for the 95s. The NGK book at the
performance shop indicated that the part number for 96s was ZFR-6-F11.

Thoughts, flames, beers?

Hey, Happy Thanksgiving to all the buds on the list.

Thanks,
----------------------------
Wally G.
&#119;ally&#64;li<img src=/i/dn.gif border=0 width=35 height=15>




From gti-vr6-owner@dev.tivoli Wed Nov 26 14:06 CST 1997
From: Scott Catlin <scott.catlin@sierra>
To: "GTI List" <gti-vr6@dev.tivoli>
Subject: Fwd: Re: Volkswagen Part Number - spark plugs
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 97 12:14:20 -0800
 
     HEY! here's some real important stuff, STRAIGHT FROM BOSCH! Maybe 
Arthur can put this on the site too.

---------------- Begin Forwarded Message ----------------
Hello,

     I am on a Volkswagen mailing list and we would like some 
information. We need the part numbers so we can order spark plugs that 
fit:

1995 Volkswagen GTI VR6
1996 Volkswagen GTI VR6 
1997 Volkswagen GTI VR6

That is the 6 cylinder, 2.8 liter engine. The OEM part is a NGK sparkplug 
but we all trust Bosch plugs more than the NGKs and would like to switch 
to a trusted brand. Unfortunately all the part stores I've been to have 
NO part number for the GTI VR6. So we come to you for assistance. 

Thanks alot,

scott catlin
     &#115;cott.catlin&#64;sierra<img src=/i/dc.gif border=0 width=35 height=15>

GTI VR6 Mailing List
     &#103;ti-vr6&#64;dev.tivoli<img src=/i/dc.gif border=0 width=35 height=15>

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Hello Scott:

Thanks for contacting Bosch.

The correct application are as follows:

Bosch part number FR8LDC (gap is not adjustable) for all three model 
years.

Regards,
Robert Bosch Corp.
USA


----------------- End Forwarded Message -----------------





From gtivr6_dallas@hotmail Wed Dec 17 06:14 CST 1997
From: "Larry Phelps" <gtivr6_dallas@hotmail>
To: aqn@dev.tivoli
Subject: Re: Plug Change
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 04:11:12 PST
 

 Sure...It's Nippondenso K20PR-U

 Regards,
 Larry Phelps


>  Larry,
>
>  Would you have the part # for the plugs around by any chance?
>  Thanks.
>
>-- 
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>        Ave, XTela, morituri te salutamus.

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From gti-vr6-owner@dev.tivoli Wed Dec 17 16:28 CST 1997
From: "Myron Ybarra" <YbarraRonTracey@worldnet.att>
To: <abe@wasting-bandwidth>, <gti-vr6@dev.tivoli>
Subject: Re: Whoops!
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 14:11:22 -0800
 


----------
&gt; From: Abe L. Getchell &lt;&#97;be&#64;wasting-bandwidth<img src=/i/dn.gif border=0 width=35 height=15>&gt;
> 
> Here is the note about the plugs that I forgot to put in there!  I
> have, in my posession, 6 Beru Silverstone sparkplugs.  They are a single
> electrode plug that carries the model name (I assume) of S3F and a part
> number (again, I assume) of 0 001 343 806.  Are these the plugs I need?

Yes, I just recently put on my second set and have been impressed with the
product ever since.  The old Silverstones I just removed off of my car
looked fine.  The electrode had minimal signs of wear and the plugs had
been in over 30000 miles.
 
> I thought all VR6 plugs should have two electrodes? 

Not the Beru Silverstones


Good luck with all of your other mods too.  

Myron Ybarra
http://members.tripod.com/~MIDKNIGHT_MOTORSPORT




From gti-vr6-owner@dev.tivoli Sat Jan 3 13:28 CST 1998
From: Wally Green <wally@li>
To: Edmund Kwong <ehkwong@ucdavis>, gti-vr6@dev.tivoli
Subject: Re: which spark plugs???
Date: Sat, 03 Jan 1998 14:22:31 -0500
 
At 17:48 1/2/98 -0800, Edmund Kwong wrote:
>Just hit thirty thousand and need to change the plugs. But......ordered
>the silverstone's from APS and they are gapped to 0.8mm. The Bentley
>manual says they should be gapped to 0.7mm for the vr6. But then ND says
>that the factory plug from NGK is dual something or another and that they
>don't need to be gapped. WHAT THE PHUCK?!?!?!?! So now what????? THanks.
>
>
>Edmund
>

The proper BOSCH part number is FR8LDC.

The proper NGK part number is BKR-5-EKU.

These are for all model years, according to BOSCH and NGK.

It is written.....

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Wally G.
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From gti-vr6-owner@dev.tivoli Tue Jan 27 11:01 CST 1998
From: Wally Green <wally@li>
To: Jim Bazzano <Jim_Bazzano@zd>, gti-vr6@dev.tivoli
Subject: Skinny on Plugs (was Brakes/plug wires)
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 11:44:54 -0500
 
At 16:36 1/26/98 -0500, Jim Bazzano wrote:
>
>I am planning on doing some tune up stuff, I would like to know if anyone
>has any warnings, points, or savings $ I should know about.
>
>I guess I should do plugs too, since I am doing the wires..  What are the
>stock plugs NGK's?

I, Uncle Wally, went through the "great plug hunt" for quite some time and
have some interesting (or not so) information to share regarding this.

The stock NGKs are BKR-5-EKU, and they are a dual electrode plug. Cool. Go
to the NGK plug place, and they've never heard of that. Not cool. They want
us to buy (and the NGK book says) an NGK plug with the number ZFR6F-11. I
buy that kind. Get home, it's a *singe* electrode. Hmm. I figure, well the
NGK book says so......and put 'em in.

Didn't like 'em. Felt that car ran differently, and hotter. That fan that
stays on in the Summer would be on in situations I thought it shouldn't
(and it's Winter). So, I thought I'd get some Bosch stuff.

Go to the Bosch store. Guy only has the Platinums. OK. But those.
Hmmm.....single electrode. Dig up old e-mail from Bosch that someone posted
to the list. Ah-ha, Bosch themselves does not recommend the Platinums for
our cars. OK, bring the Bosch's back for a refund.

Call Autotech, they send the Bosch coppers, with the part number FR8-LDC.
And hey, open the box, and it's a DUAL ELECTRODE spark plug . Very cool.
Put 'em in, car runs great!!

FYI.

----------------------------
Wally G.
&#119;ally&#64;li<img src=/i/dn.gif border=0 width=35 height=15>




From gti-vr6-owner@dev.tivoli Tue Jan 27 12:01 CST 1998
From: ANDREW_ATWELL@HP-PaloAlto-om20.om.hp
Subject: Re: Skinny on Plugs (was Brakes/plug wires)
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 09:51:10 -0800
Cc: Jim_Bazzano@zd, gti-vr6@dev.tivoli
 
     New Dimensions has the CORRECT dual electrode NGK plugs for the VR6 
     for $6.50.
     
     Andy Atwell



From gti-vr6-owner@dev.tivoli Wed Jan 28 00:41 CST 1998
From: collinsk@pacbell (Kevin Collins)
To: gti-vr6@dev.tivoli, wally@li (Wally Green)
Subject: Re: Skinny on Plugs (was Brakes/plug wires)
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 98 06:31:57 GMT
 
On 1/27/98 8:44AM, in message &lt;&#51;.0.3.32.19980127114454.006a2b34&#64;pophost.li<img src=/i/dn.gif border=0 width=35 height=15>&gt;, 
Wally Green &lt;&#119;ally&#64;li<img src=/i/dn.gif border=0 width=35 height=15>&gt; wrote:

> The stock NGKs are BKR-5-EKU, and they are a dual electrode plug. Cool. Go
> to the NGK plug place, and they've never heard of that. Not cool. They want
> us to buy (and the NGK book says) an NGK plug with the number ZFR6F-11. I
> buy that kind. Get home, it's a *singe* electrode. Hmm. I figure, well the
> NGK book says so......and put 'em in.

Just checked my receipt (from 30k service last week).  VW Specialties put in the ZFR's.
I see in my trusty Bentley that they mention the BKR's.  Hmmm.....

At any rate, my car now runs like a scalded monkey so I'm not gonna sweat it..

Doesn't Beru make some Silverstones that fit our cars??  Aren't they supposed to be 
da bomb???

BTW, for you local SoCal guys.. VW Specialties was cool.  Owner (Ron Wood) is a 
MAJOR VW gearhead - trophies and placques all over the place, HiPo cars all over 
his lot, including some blown Audi and a bunch of old VW iron in various states of, uh, 
repair.  Did great work for a VERY reasonable price.. highly recommended!  (They're 
in Huntington Beach, BTW).

--
Kevin Collins
&#99;ollinsk&#64;pacbell<img src=/i/dn.gif border=0 width=35 height=15>
'97 GTI VR6




From gti-vr6-owner@dev.tivoli Thu Mar 5 13:43 CST 1998
From: Scott Catlin <scott.catlin@sierra>
To: "Peter Fellingham" <pfellingham@rgi>, "GTI List" <gti-vr6@dev.tivoli>
Subject: Re: [gti-vr6] VR6 Spark Plugs
Date: Thu, 5 Mar 98 11:22:19 -0800
 
I used Bosch units, part number FR8LDC. That's the info straight from 
Bosch themselves. They are dual electrode plugs that come pre-gapped for 
the VR6 engine. The OEM parts are NGKs, part number BKR5EKU. [...]




From gti-vr6-owner@dev.tivoli Sun Sep 20 09:52 CDT 1998
From: "Brian and Mea Jowett" <syncroboy@hotmail>
To: gti-vr6@dev.tivoli, CONIPC@aol
Subject: Re: [gti-vr6] Autolite Platinum plugs: seem ok!
Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 07:00:40 PDT
 
Many people on the C-list tried the regular Autolites... they liked em' 
better then the stock dual electrode plugs.

Later,

Brian

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From cliff.aylmer@bcbsga Mon Mar 4 12:46:18 2002
From: "Cliff Aylmer" <cliff.aylmer@bcbsga>
To: webmaster@gti-vr6
Subject: gti-vr6 library
Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2002 11:59:38 -0500
 
More on spark plugs !!
I called around for NGK spark plugs at all the local parts stores. Best
price I could come up with $10.49. Waited till Monday and called the VW
dealer $9.73. Tried NGKSPARKPLUGS.COM, the page for VW 1995 would not
load, further search on the internet revealed WWW.CLUBPLUG.NET set of 10
BKR-5-EKU for $50, then they add on $10 shipping but still a deal....?
Cliff.



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